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Big White Elephants

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Director and Choreographer Rob Marshall once said, ”The thing about movie musicals is that there have been some brilliant ones, but when they’re bad, they’re really bad - big white elephants.” On this podcast, Grace and Scott discuss a range of Movie Musicals, from classics to DCOMs and everything in between to analyze what makes them work or why they’re Big White Elephants!

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20. Wicked: For Good (2025) 27.11.2025

For our 20th episode, Grace and Scott round out Emerald City Month with one last trip to Oz. This time they put on their sex cardigans, free the flying monkeys, and look into many reflective surfaces for Jon M. Chu's follow up to Wicked (2024), Wicked: For Good (2025). Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails or voicemails to  bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com  so we can s...

19. Wicked (2024) with Sammy 20.11.2025

Good news, she's dead! Emerald City Month continues with Grace and Scott being joined by Sammy to talk about Jon M. Chu's Wicked Part 1 (2024). Fascism against animals, Emerald Cities, and backlighting, oh my! We get into our histories with the stage musical and how we think this adaptation handles the material Tune in next week for our discussion of Wicked: For Good (2025) Connect with us on Inst...

18. The Wiz (1978) 13.11.2025

Emerald City Month continues with Grace and Scott easing on down the road and bringing no bad news to talk about Sydney Lumet's adaptation of The Wiz (1978) Tune in next week for our discussion of Wicked (2024) Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails or voicemails to  bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com  so we can share them on future episodes!

17. The Wizard Of Oz (1939) 06.11.2025

Welcome to Big Emerald Elephants, a month-long journey to the land of Oz! Grace and Scott put on their ruby red slippers and follow the yellow brick road to talk about MGM classic The Wizard Of Oz (1937) Tune in next week for our discussion of The Wiz (1978) Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails or voicemails to  bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com  so we can share them o...

16. Little Shop Of Horrors (1986) with Kev 30.10.2025

On Episode 16, Grace and Scott are joined by Austin Danger Podcast 's Kev to celebrate Halloween. We go down to Skid Row, dream of somewhere that's green, and heed the warning: Don't Feed The Plants! by discussing Frank Oz's Little Shop Of Horrors (1986) Follow Kev on Letterboxd and check out new episodes of Austin Danger Podcast every Monday Suddenly Seymour - Starring Trisha Paytas as All The Pa...

15. Stormy Weather (1943) 23.10.2025

On Episode 15, Grace and Scott go back to 1943 to discuss 20th Century Fox's showcase of incredible African American talent, Stormy Weather, starring Bill Robinson, Lena Horne, Cab Calloway, Fats Waller, Ada Brown, the Nicholas Brothers, and more! Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails or voicemails to  bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com  so we can share them on future ep...

14. Kiss Of The Spider Woman (2025) 16.10.2025

On Episode 14, Grace and Scott discuss escapism, fascism, and whether it's ok to see soiled underwear on screen for Bill Condon's Kiss Of The Spider Woman (2025) in theaters now! Read Eric Langberg's review of the film mentioned in the discussion: An Electrifying Ode To The Power Of Diva Worship Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails or voicemails to  bigwhiteelephant...

13. The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975) 09.10.2025

On Episode 13, Grace and Scott lace up their corsets, practice their audience call-outs, and do the Time Warp again for the 50th anniversary of The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975) Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails or voicemails to  bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com  so we can share them on future episodes!

12. Joyful Noise (2012) 02.10.2025

On episode 12, Grace and Scott put on their choir robes, check their high blood pressure, and pray to beat children in competition while they discuss Joyful Noise (2012).   Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails or voicemails to  bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com  so we can share them on future episodes!

11. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (2001) 25.09.2025

On Episode 11, Grace and Scott put on their blonde wigs, lift up their hands, and tear down the Berlin Wall to talk about John Cameron Mitchell's Hedwig and the Angry Inch (2001).    Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails or voicemails to  bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com  so we can share them on future episodes!

10. The Sound Of Music (1965) with Marcie 18.09.2025

On Episode 10, Grace and Scott are joined by Marcie of the Movie Mixtape podcast to look after too many children, run away from Nazis, and hear that the hills are alive with The Sound Of Music (1965), celebrating its 60th anniversary.  Follow The Movie Mixtape wherever you get your podcasts and on instagram @the_moviemixtape    Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails o...

9. Xanadu (1980) 11.09.2025

In Xanadu did Kubla Kahn/A stately pleasure-dome decree/Where Alph, the sacred river, ran/Through caverns measureless to man/Down to a sunless sea We don't know what that means but we did watch Robert Greenwald's Xanadu (1980) and on this episode we talk all about it: Kenny Ortega, Clarinet-playing Gene Kelly, Roller Skates, Olivia Newton John. This film has it all, but is it a Big White Elephant?...

8. Grease (1978) 04.09.2025

Live from Philadelphia, Grace and Scott meet in person to talk about their weekend trip before introducing a conversation about hand choreography, 30-somethings pretending to be teenagers, and a "database of asses" in Randal Kleiser's Grease (1978). Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails or voicemails to  bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com  so we can share them on future...

7. Gigi (1958) 28.08.2025

On episode 7, Grace and Scott travel back to Paris in 1900, admire the lush colors, and thank heaven for...[checks notes] little girls(?!) for Vincente Minelli's Gigi (1958).   Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails or voicemails to  bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com  so we can share them on future episodes!

6. Snoopy Presents: A Summer Musical (2025) 21.08.2025

Covering our first new release, this episode finds Grace and Scott heading off to summer camp, singing some Ben Folds songs around the campfire, digging up a time capsule, and discussing the latest Peanuts television special, Snoopy Presents: A Summer Musical (2025) Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails or voicemails to  bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com  so we can shar...

5. Hair (1979) 14.08.2025

On Episode 5, Grace and Scott burn their draft cards and go to a Be-In to discuss Miloš Forman's adaptation of Hair (1979). Are the hippies too insufferable? Should more tax dollars be going towards teaching horse cops to dance? What does "glibby gloop gloopy" even mean? We try to answer these questions and more!   Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails or voicemails...

4. The Princess and the Frog (2009) with Tristan Miller 07.08.2025

On Episode 4, Grace and Scott are joined by comedian and the host of You Got A Friend In Me, a Randy Newman podcast Tristan Miller to head on down to New Orleans, eat some beignets, kiss some frogs, and talk about Musker and Clements's The Princess and the Frog (2009).  Find out more about Tristan at www.tristanjmiller.com and check out their stand up special Manic Impressive on youtube   Connect...

3. The Hole (1998) 31.07.2025

On Episode 3 of Big White Elephants, Grace and Scott flood their apartments, dance to some calypso, and remember what it was like to live through a pandemic while discussing Tsai Ming-Liang's 1998 quasi-musical The Hole (1998)   Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails or voicemails to  bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com  so we can share them on future episodes!

2. Oklahoma (1955) 24.07.2025

On episode 2 of Big White Elephants, Grace and Scott take a surrey with the fringe on top to the box social to discuss Fred Zinnemann's adaption of the Rogers and Hammerstein classic Oklahoma (1955). We get into Todd-AO, dream ballets, incels, and--somehow--Jeremy Jordan gets mentioned again.    Connect with us on Instagram  @bigwhiteelephantspod  and send emails or voicemails to  bigwhiteelephant...

1. Chicago (2002) 17.07.2025

On this first full episode, Grace and Scott give 'em the old razzle dazzle and discuss Rob Marshall's debut feature film, Chicago (2002). Scott talks about crying during two different movies, three separate Jeremy Jordan projects are mentioned, and important questions are asked like "Was Catherine Zeta-Jones the Rachel Zegler of 2002?"   Be sure to subscribe to the show and share with friends. Con...

Overture 09.07.2025

Welcome to Big White Elephants, the podcast where we discuss movie musicals and whether they actually work or as, Rob Marshall says, they're “a big white elephant”.   On this introduction episode, Grace and Scott share their four favorite musicals, explain the backstory of the Big White Elephants name, and tease the first Movie Musical they'll be covering next week!   Be sure to subscribe to the s...

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