Steve Fretzin

BE THAT LAWYER

BE THAT LAWYER is for attorneys who want more freedom, enjoyment and most importantly, control in their career. Topics will include business development, marketing, branding, technology, and law firm growth. The goal is to educate, entertain and share best practices related to these topics, so that you, the listener can get real value. This is primarily an interview show with great guests (attorneys and legal marketing professionals), sharing stories and analogies, as well as engaging in personal discussions that will keep you entertained and coming back week after week.

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Steve Fretzin

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Business

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22. Okt 2026

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Noel Bagwell: Designing Profitable Law Firms That Last 02.02.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Noel Bagwell discuss: Prioritize profit over revenue Cultivating virtue and adaptability in leadership Rethinking traditional metrics Building resilience through self-awareness   Key Takeaways: Sustainable law firms focus on true profitability, not just top-line revenue, ensuring resources for reinvestment and owner compensation. Effective leaders build moral cha...

Robert Armstrong & Sandy Fisch: Why Most Law Firms Never Scale 29.01.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin, Robert Armstrong, and Sandy Fisch discuss: Legal expertise without systems limits growth Focus outperforms expansion without infrastructure Value-based models outperform time-based billing in an AI-driven future Future-proof firms are systemized, collaborative, and diversified   Key Takeaways: Most firms are built by technicians who understand legal work but not bus...

Deirdre Nero: The Ceiling Every Solo Lawyer Hits 26.01.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Deirdre Nero discuss: Action can precede clarity Growth requires delegation, not endurance Authenticity strengthens leadership and trust Expertise must be valued to be sustainable   Key Takeaways: Starting a firm without certainty can still create momentum and direction. Waiting for perfect readiness delays growth more than risk does. Handling every task personal...

Noel Andrews: Why Delegation Is the Key to Growing a Firm 22.01.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Noel Andrews discuss: Prioritizing others to drive long-term success Delegation as a lever for higher-value work Hiring and managing support effectively Shifting from doing to thinking as a leader   Key Takeaways: Sustainable business growth comes from helping team members, clients, and referral partners achieve their goals first. Celebrate client milestones, dev...

Jay Harrington: Why Business Development Is a Skill Every Lawyer Must Learn 19.01.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jay Harrington discuss: Reframing business development as relationship-building The power of owning a book of business Clarifying motivation to overcome resistance to business development Executing business development with focus, structure, and preparation   Key Takeaways: Business development is not selling or persuasion but consistent, helpful relationship-bui...

Mathew Kerbis: How AI Is Forcing Lawyers to Rethink Pricing 15.01.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Mathew Kerbis discuss: AI’s impact on billable work Recognizing the limits of hourly and flat fees Using subscriptions to create stability and scale Positioning lawyers for long-term resilience   Key Takeaways: AI is set to automate most billable legal tasks, collapsing the hours firms rely on for revenue. Continuing to bill time while effort shrinks creates ethi...

Promoting Future Rainmakers 12.01.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Mandy McCormack discuss: Recognizing business development as a critical legal skill Aligning coaching with motivation and execution Building authentic personal branding Creating lasting impact through structured support   Key Takeaways: Marketing, planning, and relationship-building are essential for long-term career success, not optional extras. Structured coach...

Chris Earley: How Lawyers Win Attention in a Crowded Industry 08.01.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Chris Earley discuss: Treating consistency as the real competitive edge Building trust through authenticity over achievement Matching platforms to where your audience already lives Playing the long game of value before promotion   Key Takeaways: Showing up every day with content is not a tactic but the game itself. One post a day over time compounds into trust, v...

Matthew Fornaro: Building a Solo Law Firm in the Age of AI 05.01.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Matthew Fornaro discuss: Making solo practice more accessible than ever Using AI as a force multiplier for small firms Practicing ethical and intentional AI adoption Rethinking legal business models and skill sets   Key Takeaways: Starting a firm no longer requires a large office, full staff, or major upfront investment. A focused LinkedIn presence paired with a...

Wes Lungwitz: The New Rules of Law Firm Marketing 01.01.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Wes Lungwitz discuss: Adapting to change in legal marketing Strengthening the website as the foundation Optimizing for AI-driven discovery Evaluating partners and acting proactively   Key Takeaways: Law firm growth now depends on adapting to AI, new search behavior, and shifting marketing dynamics. Firms that remain static risk losing visibility as discovery move...

Alefiyah Lindo: Why Burnout Is a Signal and How to Realign for Better Results 29.12.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Alefiyah Lindo discuss: Planning the future by evaluating what actually worked Supporting happiness without trying to control it Using energy as a diagnostic tool for alignment Treating burnout as feedback and adjusting accordingly   Key Takeaways: Reviewing the past year reveals which habits, strategies, and commitments deserve to continue and which do not. Ente...

Deborah Farone: Developing Clients, Confidence, and Career Control 25.12.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Deborah Farone discuss: Using business development as a path to influence and autonomy Starting relationship-building early in your career Aligning marketing with authenticity and personality Deepening trust by focusing on long-term relationships   Key Takeaways: Business development gives women greater control over their careers, choices, and leadership opportun...

Charlie Gaudet: Escape the Founder Trap and Scale Your Firm 22.12.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Charlie Gaudet discuss: Moving beyond hard work toward sustainable growth Escaping the founder-centered business model Outperforming talent using systems Protecting time as the highest-leverage asset   Key Takeaways: Hard work eventually becomes a liability when it replaces strategy, systems, and recovery. Sustainable growth requires designing the business so it...

Colleen Joyce: Leading, Selling, And Scaling In A Changing Legal Market 18.12.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Colleen Joyce discuss: Failing fast while managing risk Building a competitive legal practice intentionally Treating sales as listening and diagnosis Leading and adapting for the future of law   Key Takeaways: Test ideas quickly and learn from small, recoverable failures. Avoid high-stakes decisions that can jeopardize the entire business. Fast iteration builds r...

Amy Wood: Lawyer Like An Athlete 15.12.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Amy Wood discuss: Cultivating inner balance Training your career like an athlete Building the four pillars of success Managing energy and embracing growth   Key Takeaways: Focus on inner balance rather than chasing work–life balance. Intentionally manage your energy, mindset, and relationships to sustain long-term professional performance. Treat your career like...

Susan Filan: Finding Joy and Peace in a High-Pressure Career 11.12.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Susan Filan discuss: Reclaiming life before life demands it Asking the questions that change everything Stepping off the professional hamster wheel Choosing authenticity over performance   Key Takeaways: Near-death experiences show how fragile, temporary, and precious life truly is. Fulfillment starts when we stop postponing purpose and intentionally live each da...

Dustin Ruge: Transforming the Legal Landscape Through Strategy, Value, and AI 08.12.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Dustin Ruge discuss: Strategic decision-making in choosing clients Communicating value through intentional sales processes Adapting to AI-driven shifts in legal labor Rebuilding legal services through integrated ecosystems   Key Takeaways: Choosing which cases to decline becomes a powerful profitability strategy. Disciplined selection protects focus, energy, and...

Pam Meissner: Creating Law Firms That Thrive Long Term 04.12.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Pam Meissner discuss: Aligning strengths with strategy Addressing operational challenges Clarifying compensation and career paths Maximizing long-term firm value   Key Takeaways: Successful firm growth depends on matching personal strengths to business goals. Chasing clients or revenue alone does not ensure satisfaction or long-term success. Intentional planning...

Adam Williams: Maximizing Tax Strategy For Law Firms 01.12.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Adam Williams discuss: Planning taxes proactively Exploring creative tax strategies Building a professional team Implementing actionable year-end steps   Key Takeaways: Most law firms wait until filing to address taxes, missing savings opportunities. Working with a tax strategist year-round aligns decisions with long-term goals. Proactive planning uncovers ways t...

Ben Dach: Growing Through Guidance and Experience 27.11.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Ben Dach discuss: Prioritizing layered mentorship Strengthening firm culture for development Maintaining clear communication in mentoring Using delegation and varied experience for growth   Key Takeaways: Professionals should pursue multiple mentors with complementary strengths to build balanced legal and leadership skills. Proactive outreach broadens perspective...

Allison Williams: Strengthening Your Practice Through Structure 24.11.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Allison Williams discuss: Developing business skills beyond legal training Balancing legal work with true leadership roles Strengthening sales and client relationships with structure Reducing stress through systems, communication, and metrics   Key Takeaways: Law school doesn’t teach the core business, sales, and time-management abilities required to run a succes...

Danielle Hendon: Building Sustainable Profit For Modern Law Firms 20.11.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Danielle Hendon discuss: Embracing perseverance Shifting mindsets for sustainability Transitioning toward flat fee models Balancing finances for growth   Key Takeaways: Perseverance shapes long-term success by turning setbacks into momentum rather than defeat. Continuing the work is what separates progress from failure. Stopping, not struggling, is the only real...

Be That Lawyer Live: Building a Practice That Lasts (Part 2) 17.11.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin, Tim Semelroth, Casey Grabenstein, and Neil Dishman discuss: Treating business development as essential Using systems and empowering teams Building a culture of growth Learning through resilience and honesty   Key Takeaways: Integrating business development into daily routines and tracking it like billable work ensures steady growth. Making it non-negotiable builds c...

Be That Lawyer Live: Building a Practice That Lasts (Part 1) 13.11.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin, Tim Semelroth, Casey Grabenstein, and Neil Dishman discuss: Building consistent habits Tracking meaningful metrics Repurposing and leveraging content Cultivating strategic relationships   Key Takeaways: Dedicating time, using accountability systems, and leveraging support drives sustained business growth. Consistency and structure keep focus sharp and opportunities...

Lee Rudin: Turning Purpose Into Profit In Modern Law 10.11.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Lee Rudin discuss: Aligning business with purpose Preparing financially before independence Marketing actively and creatively Leveraging systems, technology, and people   Key Takeaways: Building a law practice around shared success creates deeper fulfillment and stronger client relationships. Choosing work that serves others transforms daily effort into long-term...

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