Babble On

(00:00:00) Zocalo (01:10:33) Grey Council Jack the Ripper has arrived on Babylon 5, and the Vorlons sent him - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 21, "Comes the Inquisitor." The crew unpacks one of B5's most philosophically dense hours: ego death, the "Who are you?" vs. "What do you want?" dialectic, and what it means to act in service of someth...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:53:21) Grey Council War crimes, velvet crimes, and the fall of an empire  - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus break down Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 20, "The Long Twilight Struggle."  In this episode, the crew unpacks the sci-fi Hiroshima of it all and why Rifa's rhetoric sounds uncomfortably familiar, dissects Londo's intentional cough mid-speech and what it...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:54:26) Grey Council Monkey's paw episode, anyone? This week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2 Episode 19, "Divided Loyalties." Lyta Alexander is back, a major character is gone (kind of), and it turns out the silk pajama sleepover was never just a sleepover. Jenn breaks down what JMS was building from the very beginning, Ali is furious and i...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (01:05:30) Grey Council Plagues, politics, and the price of silence - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2 Episode 18, "Confessions and Lamentations." As a devastating disease threatens to annihilate the Markab people, the crew breaks down one of the most emotional and haunting episodes of the series. Jenn explores the episode's "Inside B...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:43:11) Grey Council Centauri honor, political consequences, and one very inconvenient trauma ghost - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus break down Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 17, “Knives.” What looks like a contained character episode quickly reveals deeper themes about loyalty, identity, and the cost of power. The crew dives into Londo’s complicated choices, S...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (01:10:45) Grey Council Shadows, secrets, and suspicious diplomacy - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2 Episode 16, "In the Shadow of Z'Ha'Dum." As Morden resurfaces and the Shadow War edges closer to the spotlight, the crew breaks down the episode’s major lore drops and rising political tension. Jenn digs into the structure behind the...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:55:19) Grey Council ISN has arrived on the station, and the "truth" is looking a little bit like a hatchet job – this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 15, “And Now For a Word”. The crew breaks down the groundbreaking documentary-style episode that gave us our first look at the station from the outside. We discuss the terrifyin...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:56:29) Grey Council Industry secrets, "Deep Space" shade, and the return of Peter David—this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 14, “There All the Honor Lies.” In this episode, we explore the "Pink Elephant" writing trick and the hilariously pointed dig at a certain other deep space franchise. The crew debates if Sheridan's "Bla...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:55:25) Grey Council Psychology, 90s noir vibes, and a space station manhunt for a "Space Snowden" - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus discuss Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 13, "Hunter, Prey". It’s a race against EarthForce to find a fugitive doctor, but between Kosh’s singing ship and a "creepy" lesson in Vorlon philosophy, things get weirdly existential. Ali an...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:49:57) Grey Council Delenn gets kicked out of the Grey Council, Londo spirals deeper into war criminal territory, and Ivanova engages in the most uncomfortable diplomatic mission in Babylon 5 history - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus discuss one of the most tonally whiplash episodes of the series. The crew dissects the episode's jarring duality: 90% is devas...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (01:03:22) Grey Council Prophetic dreams, biblical symbolism, and Warren Kefrer's continued absence – this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 11, "All Alone in the Night." The crew breaks down Sheridan's bizarre grey alien abduction, Delenn getting kicked off the Grey Council, and the conspiracy reveal that changes everything. Ali g...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:40:25) Grey Council War comes to Babylon 5 this week as Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Season 2, Episode 10, “Gropos.” What starts as a familiar ground-pounder story quickly turns into one of the show’s most devastating episodes. The crew breaks down how Gropos uses classic war tropes to lull the audience into a false sense of security, why the guest characters work so w...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:54:00) Grey Council The Emperor is dying, the Shadows are moving, and Londo is making choices he can't take back – this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 9, “The Coming of Shadows.” The crew breaks down the episode that beat Apollo 13 and Toy Story for a Hugo Award. We discuss the arrival of the "Jefflings" (Rangers) , the trag...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:52:50) Grey Council Psi Corps is here, consent is optional, and suddenly everyone is VERY uncomfortable - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 8, “A Race Through Dark Places.” The crew breaks down Bester’s deeply unsettling debut, the moral horror of telepath control, and why this episode quietly reframes everything we though...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:46:35) Grey Council Three wives, a creepy ex-husband, and perhaps the biggest foot-in-mouth moment in our podcast's history - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dig into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 7, “Soul Mates.” In this episode, the crew spirals after accidentally roasting writer Peter David before realizing his legendary status (and recent passing). We unpa...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:45:53) Grey Council Psi Corps, brainwashing, and a conspiracy that absolutely does not feel resolved - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dig into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 6, “A Spider in the Web.” What starts as a slow-burn spy thriller quietly lays down some deeply unsettling foundations for the rest of the season. The crew unpacks Bureau 13, personality c...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:43:28) Grey Council This week on Babble On, Jenny, Gus, and Ali dig into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 5, “The Long Dark.” It’s the episode where space gets genuinely creepy, Dwight Schultz delivers an all-timer performance, and Dr. Franklin makes choices that immediately land him on everyone’s watchlist. The trio talks horror vibes, Shadow-adjacent lore, why this episode is we...

This week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 4, “A Distant Star.” It’s the episode where hyperspace gets weird, Dr. Franklin becomes the self-appointed Food Police, and Sheridan questions whether he should be running a space station… or just running laps. The crew debates whether D.C. Fontana wrote the emotional arc and JMS sprinkled in the dad jokes, why...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:41:34) Grey Council Technomages, a ridiculous color-coded civil war, and the fashion statement of the century - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus discuss Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 3, "The Geometry of Shadows." It’s supposed to be a "breather" episode , but between Londo’s looming genocide prophecy and Garibaldi’s dark night of the soul, the vibes are complic...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (01:03:59) Grey Council Sheridan grief, goo-soaked rebirths, and Londo making the absolute worst decisions - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Season 2’s second episode, “Revelations.” From Delenn’s dramatic emergence to the deepening Shadows plotline, this one delivers character turmoil, lore drops, and far-reaching consequences. Jenn breaks down the em...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (01:02:28) Grey Council Minbari souls, Jeff-related heartbreak, and the debut of Babylon 5’s newest captain — this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus tackle the Season 2 opener, “Points of Departure.” From the massive Minbari reveal to the behind-the-scenes reasons Sinclair vanishes overnight, it’s a premiere packed with lore and emotions. Ali spirals into soul-theory c...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (01:18:01) Grey Council Cocoons, conspiracies, and… traffic cones?! In this episode of Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus and guest Ean dig into the game-changing Babylon 5 Season 1 finale, “Chrysalis.” We break down Delenn’s shocking transformation, the assassination plot that flips the station on its head, and the chilling sense that the Shadows are finally moving. Ali spiral...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:47:26) Grey Council *Note: We recorded this reaction & podcast discussion prior to the sad news of June Lockhart’s passing. In the episode, we mention her as still living at the time. June Lockhart was a beloved icon of television, and we send our love and respect to her family, friends, and fans. May her memory be a blessing. 💙* 🧠 Mercy, mind wipes, and… tentacle poker...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (00:50:56) Grey Council Time rifts, shadowy wars, and Zathras the honey badger of space?! In this episode of Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into the game-changing Babylon 5 episode “Babylon Squared.” We unravel the mystery of the vanished station, puzzle over the appearance of “Old Jeff,” and lose our collective minds over the arrival of Zathras. Ali spins wild theorie...

(00:00:00) Zocalo (01:08:19) Grey Council Prophecy, politics, and a planet that’s alive?! In this episode of Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into the conclusion of the Babylon 5 two-parter “A Voice in the Wilderness.” We unpack Draal’s sacrifice, Garibaldi’s bittersweet Mars subplot, and Londo’s surprising moment of heart. Ali celebrates being right about Draal’s importance, Jenn digs in...