Cynthia Winward, Susan Hinckley
At Last She Said It
At Last She Said It is a podcast that seeks to amplify and explore a variety of voices, stories, ideas and experiences of Mormon women.
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30. Jun 2026
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Episode 244: What About the Word of Wisdom? | A Conversation with Linda Hamilton 11.11.2025 1:15:37
Though Section 89 of the Doctrine & Covenants describes itself as a "principle with promise," "to be sent by greeting, not by commandment or constraint," contemporary Church leadership has elevated some of its prohibitions to the level of requirement for temple worship. Other suggestions this section contains seem to be completely ignored. To complicate things, current medical research hasn't alwa...
Episode 243: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Whitney Call 04.11.2025 1:18:02
Each Latter-day Saint's path looks different, a combination of unique experiences, choices, and challenges. No matter how insistent our culture may sometimes feel, no woman fits in a mold. "I think my life began with holding dissonance," explains comedian Whitney Call. "I grew up in a very faithful LDS family...but a little squidgy around the edges. We would go to church and activities every week,...
Episode 242: Are You There God? It's Us, Susan and Cynthia | Part 2 28.10.2025 1:12:31
No matter what language we use to describe the Divine, for spiritual seekers the hope is that our understanding and connection will continue to expand and deepen. As Richard Rohr reminds us, "God is always bigger than the boxes we build for God, so we should not spend too much time protecting the boxes." In Episode 242, Cynthia and Susan take another look at the spaces where their own 'god-boxes'...
Episode 241: Demystifying Mysticism | A Conversation with Kathryn Knight Sonntag 21.10.2025 1:13:51
Was Joseph Smith a mystic? Searching for the term 'mysticism' on the Church website yields, "See: False Doctrine, Sorcery, Superstitions; Traditions of Men." So it's no wonder many church members haven't thought much about mysticism—the role it may have played in Joseph's experience, or how it might inform their own everyday lives or transform their spiritual practices. But poet Kathryn Knight Son...
Episode 240 (Bonus): Navigating Transitions 4 | ALSSI Listener Stories 17.10.2025 19:52
We can't get enough of these stories! Bonus Episode 240 features more ALSSI listeners answering the question, "What triggered your faith journey?"
Episode 239: Let's Talk About Enmeshment | A Conversation with Dr. Julie Hanks 14.10.2025 1:00:11
"Differentiation of self is being a unique individual while maintaining connection with people you love," explains Dr. Julie Hanks. "We've been trained, particularly as women, to be enmeshed—to feel other people's pain for them. And that does no one any good. It doesn't help them, and it doesn't help us." On Episode 239, Dr. Hanks joins Cynthia and Susan for a conversation about enmeshment. It has...
Episode 238: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Lindsie Cornia 07.10.2025 1:00:45
"With always wanting to do the right things, take care of people, and people please, this set me up perfectly to be an all-in member. Doing the formula. Hustling! I was married in the temple to a returned missionary, had 4 children, and did everything I could to be a good, righteous LDS woman," explains Lindsie Cornia. Those lines might be the beginning of a million stories in our church, but if t...
Episode 237: The Invisible Labor of Women | A Conversation with Christine Pagano 30.09.2025 1:08:04
"There's no roadmap for how to do partnership in patriarchy, at least within our little Mormon frame of reference," explains Christine Pagano. "Patriarchy believes that men's time is finite—there's only 24 hrs—while women's time is infinite. It's unlimited. [...] Moms are carrying the load of domestic labor, invisible labor, emotional labor, and relational labor at much higher rates than their mal...
Episode 236: We Don't Believe Our Own Stuff | Resurrection 23.09.2025 1:07:05
It seems Latter-day Saints most often speak about resurrection in the literal sense: the reuniting of spirit and body. Jesus rising from the tomb holds promise for us after our own inevitable physical death. But as Richard Rohr says, "Literalism is invariably the lowest and least level of meaning." So what else can we take from this concept? Actually, the gospel of Jesus Christ is all about renewa...
Episode 235: Is it Too Expensive to be a Latter-day Saint? | A Conversation with Natalie Brown 16.09.2025 1:03:05
"In all my angst about if I would marry and if I would have children and if I would have a career, I did not fully consider how the ideals in this proclamation from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints reflected a certain moment in white, middle-class America's economic history," writes Natalie Brown. Most Latter-day Saints have absorbed a lifetime of talks and lessons centered around a...
Episode 234 (Bonus): Navigating Transitions 3 | ALSSI Listener Stories 12.09.2025 20:05
We asked, you answered! In Bonus Episode 234, more women from the ALSSI community share their stories in response to the question: What triggered your faith journey?
Episode 233: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Jen Dille 09.09.2025 1:12:01
"Deconstruction doesn't just happen to lazy learners," says Jen Dille. "It's often the most true-blue Mormons and the people who are all in who have this experience." In episode 233, Jen joins Susan and Cynthia for a conversation about her personal journey. It's a story of old wheels coming off, and the new ones taking their place. "I dream of a time where we can each just have our own experience,...
Episode 232: Let's Talk About Sanctuary 02.09.2025 1:02:24
Diana Butler Bass wrote, "To belong is to be, for belonging is ultimately a question of identity: Who am I?" For many Latter-day Saint women, a place where they can just "be"—whoever and wherever they are right now—feels elusive. That's what the ALSSI project aims to create: a community where women can speak honestly about the complexity of their church life and/or faith journey, feel seen and val...
Episode 231 (Bonus): Navigating Transitions 2 | ALSSI Listener Stories 29.08.2025 18:22
What triggered your faith journey? In this short bonus episode, more women from the ALSSI community share their answers!
Episode 230: Creating Your Future | A Conversation with Jody England Hansen 26.08.2025 1:05:09
"I can take as long as I need on the edge of the chasm of the unknown," writes Jody England Hansen. "I can experience the terror of moving into the future for however long I feel it. I can turn again to the past if I choose to deal with that pain. I can create my future, choosing to step forward on a path that I might not see until I am in the next moment, the next place I step." In Episode 230, J...
Episode 229: What About Empathy? 19.08.2025 1:03:17
How can we know if we're getting it right when it comes to meeting others with empathy? "Empathy is a tool of compassion," writes Brene Brown. "We can respond empathically only if we are willing to be present to someone's pain. If we're not willing to do that, it's not real empathy." We're living now in a time and society where people actually talk about the sin of empathy. But for followers of Je...
Episode 228: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Abby Maxwell Hansen 12.08.2025 1:14:12
For many Latter-day Saint women, a faith journey begins as their personal experiences pile up and dots begin to connect. Abby Maxwell Hansen began to see a thread of internalized misogyny in her own story emerge like this: "Every time I went to church, I had some type of message—whether it was really overt or whether it was just sitting down at conference, and they didn't come out and say women's...
Episode 227 (Bonus): Navigating Transitions | ALSSI Listener Stories 08.08.2025 14:08
What triggered your faith journey? In Bonus Episode 227, 10 women share their answers.
Episode 226: I Am a Woman of Faith | Tackling Imposter Syndrome 05.08.2025 1:08:57
Sometimes it's hard to untangle specific beliefs from our ideas about faith. Is struggling with church policies or doctrinal tenets an indictment of a Latter-day Saint woman's faith? What does it even mean to have faith? And who gets to measure ours? In Episode 226, Cynthia and Susan take on a topic that comes up frequently for church members who find themselves on a journey of expansion or redefi...
Episode 225: Navigating the Fallow Years | A Conversation with Kajsa Berlin-Kaufusi 29.07.2025 1:04:21
"I have always felt the gentle nature of Jesus being one of the most resonating parts of what I saw and knew as the gospel, and I always imagined Jesus speaking to me, saying, 'Consider the lilies, how they grow, and they don't toil.' And my whole life ... I have been a toiler," explains Kajsa Berlin-Kaufusi. "What if I wasn't a planter at this time, and what if I was the field?" In Episode 225, K...
Episode 224: Navigating Transitions | What Triggered Your Faith Journey? 22.07.2025 1:05:49
Maya Angelou said, "There is no greater agony than bearing an untold story inside you." When things start to get shifty in your faith life, it can feel overwhelming and difficult to talk about, even with those closest to you. There are as many stories of evolving faith as there are Latter-day Saint women who experience them. For Season 10, Cynthia and Susan have asked listeners to share what start...
Episode 223: Making Friends with Change | A Conversation about Hope 15.07.2025 1:16:59
"There is hope in the certainty that things do change," writes Buddhist teacher Sharon Salzberg. But there is also real anxiety in the certainty that things do change. Change is the force that pushes us forward, without asking whether we want to move. Can the way we think about and navigate life's transitions improve our experience of them? In Episode 223, Susan and Cynthia are back for Season 10...
Episode 222 (Bonus): Mailbag! 17.06.2025 1:04:35
In this bonus episode, Susan and Cynthia share and discuss a few voicemails from the ALSSI mailbag. The male gaze, sad heaven, organizational/prophetic focus, sealing policy, and dancing with parables are some of the topics touched on in this wide-ranging conversation.
Episode 221 (Bonus): Confronting Polygamy | One Woman's Experience 03.06.2025 1:21:50
TW: Emotional Abuse and Physical Abuse Members of the Church don't talk much about polygamy, but isn't it time we did? After all, it continues to haunt our family trees, our church history, and many women's minds and hearts. Imagine getting married to a man only to find out he actually has a deep testimony of polygamy and insists you'll need to have one too. In Bonus Episode 221, Blakelee Ellis is...
Episode 220: The Women Are Not Okay | A Conversation About the Male Gaze 15.04.2025 1:26:48
How much in the Church is still, in 2025, coming to us through the male lens? Pretty much all of it. Our scriptures, doctrine, ward boundaries, curriculum, conference talks, local leadership, and decisions are almost entirely by and/or about men. A women's organization made and presided over by men is not really a women's organization, is it? How could men ever describe or define women—our roles,...
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