4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

Angels show up all throughout Scripture—from the garden of Eden to the empty tomb. But despite their biblical presence, many of our ideas about angels have been shaped more by culture than by truth. So today, author and Bible teacher Melissa Spoelstra will set the record straight. Drawing from her in-depth study of angels in the Bible, Melissa unpacks who angels really are, what they do, and why u...

What do you do when your story feels too broken to redeem? That's exactly where Mary DeMuth found herself—carrying the deep pain of childhood trauma, abuse, and brokenness. It's a story she never would have chosen. But today, she celebrates a God who rewrites, redeems, and restores every story. In this conversation, Mary will help you discover how Jesus meets you in your past, transforms your pres...

Life is busy. Between work, family, and everything else on your plate, consistent Bible reading, prayer, and quiet time can feel out of reach. But growing your faith doesn't require a complete life overhaul! Instead, you can develop "seed habits"—small, simple practices that fit naturally into your everyday routines.  Joining me today is author Hannah Seymour who shares a refreshing, practical app...

What comes to mind when you think of self-care? Massages? Facials? Maybe a nap? While those are all good things, the truth is they won't sustain us in the long run. So today, pastor and theologian Dr. Benjamin Espinoza invites you to rethink self-care. He'll help you see that true self-care goes far beyond any surface-level indulgences and is actually deeply rooted in your relationship with God. Y...

In the middle of this Holy Week, we're sharing a special episode to help you pause and prepare your heart for the celebration of Jesus' resurrection. We know it's easy to get caught up in the busyness of the holiday, so these Easter reflections will invite you to slow down and simply behold the Lamb—because whatever you behold, you will be  held by . Plus, Layne Victoria sings over you a beautiful...

Spiritual warfare can feel mysterious, confusing, or even intimidating! But what does the Bible actually say about it—and why do we need to know? Well today on the 4:13 , author and theologian Dr. Joel Muddamalle unpacks spiritual warfare through a biblical lens that will cut through the confusion. He tackles some intriguing and often misunderstood topics—such as the Nephilim—and reveals how all s...

God didn't create you just to survive—He created you to flourish! In this episode of the 4:13 , Bible teacher Christine Caine shares how you can thrive in every season of life—even the hardest ones—by grounding yourself in God's unchanging truth. Using the biblical imagery of the olive tree, Christine explains how pruning can be restorative, pressing can produce the good stuff, and abiding in Chri...

Shannon Bream—the number one New York Times bestselling author of The Women of the Bible Speak series—is with us today, and she's got just what you need if you're facing something that feels impossible. On today's episode, Shannon will chronicle some unlikely biblical heroes whose stories mirror our own struggles and teach us about overcoming seemingly impossible situations. Plus, Shannon vulnerab...

Last week, we flipped the mic and you got to hear my two sons interview me ! If you joined us, you know this conversation only scratched the surface about ministry, blindness, writing, and speaking. So today, we're picking right back up where we left off and going deeper into the story behind the ministry and the heart behind the microphone! In Part Two of this special miniseries, the questions tu...

For the last five years on the 4:13 —and for the last eighteen years at Fresh Grounded Faith conferences—you've heard me spill the beans and interview incredible guests! But today, we're doing something we have never done before! My two sons asked if they could turn the tables and interview me —to talk about the story behind the ministry and the heart behind the microphone. They wanted to unpack m...

On today's episode, historian Joseph Loconte takes us inside the lives and friendship of J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis, two of the most influential Christian writers of the last century.  Amid the devastation of World War II, their imaginative writing provided a vision of reality—one grounded in truth, valor, and virtue. It's through their stories that Tolkien and Lewis offered far more than escap...

You may know your love language—but what if you're speaking it with the wrong accent? Dr. Gary Chapman has helped more than 150 million people discover their "love language," but knowing the language is just the beginning. That's because each love language has dialects! Miss the dialect, and even the right language can fall flat. So today, Gary joins me to share why love so often gets lost in tran...

When you picture Heaven, what comes to mind? Harps, halos, pearly gates, and endless singing? If that's all Heaven is, it can seem quite disconnected from our lives today. But fortunately, Scripture paints a far richer and more relevant picture. In this conversation, Pastor Philip De Courcy invites you to rethink everything you assume about eternity. Drawing deeply from God's Word, Philip answers...

The practice of waking early to seek God in prayer is woven into the fabric of Scripture. But... what if you're not a morning person? Oh friend, I get it! But whether you greet the sunrise with joy or hit snooze like it's your spiritual gift, today you'll be challenged to rethink what's possible with God. Joining me on the 4:13 is author Tara Beth Leach who shares why mornings matter, how even nig...

When Lysa TerKeurst experienced the painful, unwanted end of her nearly 30-year marriage, she found herself asking hard questions and searching Scripture for real answers. She didn't just need comfort—she needed clarity, truth, and a way forward. On today's episode of the 4:13 , Lysa shares the resource she wishes she had during that season and tackles some of the most difficult questions many wom...

Do you ever feel let down in your daily experience as a Christian? You're not alone. Pastor and bestselling author Gary Thomas understands that frustration—which he says often comes from believing lies we don't even realize we've embraced. Today on the 4:13 , Gary unpacks the subtle deceptions that quietly shape our expectations, steal our joy, and keep us from the abundant life God promises. He r...

You may know Nicole C. Mullen as an incredible singer-songwriter, but did you know she's also a certified Bible nerd? That's right! And she not only knows the Word, but she can teach it too, bringing it to life in a powerful, practical way. So today on the 4:13 , Nicole takes us into Scripture to remind us that it's never wrong to do the right thing—even when it's difficult or costly. Because, let...

Before we rush into the new year, KC and I are taking a moment to look back on 2025 — the fun moments, the hard moments, the lessons learned (and unlearned), and the ways God has faithfully carried us through it all. We hope this conversation inspires you to reflect on your own year, celebrate what God has done, and step forward with expectancy for all He has ahead. Happy New Year! 🎉 SHOW NOTES:...

This is a very merry episode of the 4:13 Podcast today because … it's Christmas, and we want to sprinkle a little extra joy into your celebration!  We're talking about the wonder and joy of Christmas—but also the mess of Christmas, because let's be real, it can get a little messy, right? So, we'll laugh together, share a few stories, and remind your heart that Jesus shows up right in the middle of...

We are deeply relational people, longing to be connected and known. That's how we were created! Yet despite having endless ways to connect these days, loneliness is on the rise. So today on the 4:13 , author Alli Patterson addresses the loneliness epidemic and breaks down how you can build relationships that actually nourish your soul! But here's the best part…  Alli went straight to God's Word to...

Are you feeling overwhelmed by out-of-control thoughts, consuming worry, or the nagging weight of guilt? Well, I've got good news: Your thoughts don't have to control your life! Instead, you can tame those thoughts, and here to help you do it is "America's Pastor," Max Lucado. Through Scripture and biblical wisdom, Max will teach you how to renew your mind and change your thinking—one thought at a...

When life gets hard—really hard—it can be tempting to throw in the towel. But today you're going to hear an incredibly powerful testimony of why you shouldn't.  Pastor Shawn Johnson talks about how he received a devastating brain disease diagnosis that left him wrestling with despair, doubt, and the desire to give up on everything, including his faith and his future. But through vulnerability, com...

Thanksgiving may come once a year, but thankfulness is for every day. So in this special edition of the 4:13 , we're looking at what Scripture says about cultivating an attitude of gratitude—not just today, but always! We hope you'll meditate on these verses and let them shape your perspective—no matter what season you're in—because there's an abundance of joy that comes from a heart full of grati...

Empathy is often misunderstood, even maligned. But the truth is—it's one of the most powerful ways to experience healthier emotions and stronger relationships. True empathy isn't about coddling or rescuing; it's about understanding and care that respects God's truth and empowers personal responsibility. Today on the 4:13 , Bill and Kristi Gaultiere share biblical and psychological insights into wh...

People are hurting on a scale we've never seen before. They're dealing with an onslaught of issues like anxiety, grief, mental health struggles, and family troubles. Pastors and counselors want to help, but they've become inundated and can't meet every need. It's a crisis that's expected to only become worse. But what if the church stepped in? What if the body of Christ could bring healing to the...