PEOPLE ARE THE ENEMY

Andy pushes through a headache to talk about seeing Kendrick Lamar and SZA in concert, The Brutalist, disliking when podcasts fade in their outro music, and quitting TikTok. On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines delivers even more information about Yes in 1980. Follow Rachel on Last.fm here .

Andy talks about new music he's been digging, approves of the musical guests on John Mulaney's Netflix show, plays an atypical song from a well known act, gets comments every time he wears a King Crimson shirt, and can't believe how many times Arcade Fire has played SNL compared to other bands. On Rachel's Chart Chat, the topic is the 1980 Yes album Drama. You can follow Rachel on Last.fm here .

Andy sings a Girls song and reads a Guardian piece on Christopher Owens. The Tim Jonze article Andy reads can be found in its entirety here . On Rachel's Chart Chat,  Rachel from Des Moines looks at Saturday Night Fever's 6 charting singles and reads the Bee Gees chapter from I Wanna Be Sedated. You can follow Rachel on Last.fm here .

Andy sings a Cure B-side, sees a bald eagle, thinks Garden State (2004) is almost good, and admits to liking the Mooch. On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines discusses the new restoration of Pink Floyd at Pompeii. Follow Rachel on Last.fm here .

Andy talks about his family creating new Easter traditions, and we listen to a TikTok clip of Dave Hill recounting the story of Easter. On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines talks about titles of #1 pop hits with the name of a real person. Follow Rachel on Last.fm here .

Andy talks about bands evolving their sound and Weezer's bassist's wife getting into a shootout with the police. On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines looks at Billboard #1 Pop Hits with the longest titles (part 2). You can find a playlist for Rachel's Chart Chat here . Follow Rachel on Last.fm  here . Rachel's bed music is by Maurice Daugherty. Check out Maurice's YouTube page here .

Andy remembers seeing a witch, compares Cameron Winter's "Love Takes Miles" to King Harvest's "Dancing in the Moonlight", has a date night at a bad restaurant, and talks about young singers who sound old. On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines looks at Billboard #1 Pop Hits with the longest titles (part 1). Follow Rachel on Last.fm here .

Andy talks about bands that changed their name, Street-Level Superstar: A Year With Lawrence by Will Hodgkinson, and the Shaq-A-Licious XL Sour Pineapple Slurpee. On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines shares Hot 100 achievements from the top40weekly website and discusses the music of Young Adult (2011).

Andy has bird envy, plays Kyle M's song "ILY", then we listen to a clip of a guy reflecting on the meaning of "the best day of my life." On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines reviews overlooked songs from the April 11, 1981 Hot 100. Follow Rachel on Last.fm here .

Andy flirts around and finds out and makes Frito Monterey Jack queso soup. On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines shares final thoughts on the Medley miniseries and takes a look at the Close to the Edge super deluxe reissue. You can find a Medley Playlist for Rachel's Chart Chat here .

Our guest is Carey Mercer from the band Frog Eyes! Andy speaks with Carey about Frog Eyes' new album, The Open Up . On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines delivers part 3 of the Medley Craze, 1982 and beyond. You can find a Medley Playlist for Rachel's Chat Chat here . Follow Rachel on Last.fm here .

Andy sings Belle & Sebastian's "I'm a Cuckoo", fights a paper towel dispenser, reads a poem, and cries after listening to a clip of President Dolly Parton. On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines covers medley songs of 1981 in the UK and US. You can find a medley playlist for Rachel's Chart Chat here .

Andy talks about 100yo saxophonist Marshall Allen's Guinness World Record-setting debut solo album, community theater, and being too busy to eat healthy. On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines delivers part 1 of her look at Stars on 45 and the Medley Craze. Follow Rachel on Last.fm here .

Andy sings along with an old reggae song, talks about seeing Geordie Greep in Vermont, then he plays a clip of David Bowie talking about when musicians tend to do their best and worst work. On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines looks at Yes singles that share titles with US Hot 100 hits. You can find a playlist for Rachel's latest segment here . Follow Rachel on Last.fm here .

Our guest is Dave Hill! Andy talks with Dave about his new true crime podcast, The Crime Blotter with Dave Hill. Also, Dave tells his Björk Twinkie story. Find links to everything Dave Hill-related, including his podcasts and Patreon,  here . On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines delivers a casual check-in. Follow Rachel on Last.fm here . You can find a playlist for Rachel's Chart Chat he...

Andy hits an emotional wall, complains about a woman at the gym listening to music without headphones, and plays a clip of Ani DiFranko talking about why she never signed a record deal. On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines looks at the US Hit singles for the band Supertramp. You can find a playlist for Rachel's Chart Chat here . Follow Rachel on Last.fm here .

Our guest is Momus! Andy talks with Momus about his album Quietism, Artificial Intelligence, villains, the Minotaur, psychoanalysis, and more. Find all things Momus-related at iMomus.com . Quietism, Momus' latest album, can be streamed and purchased via Bandcamp here . On Rachel's Chart Chat,  Rachel from Des Moines celbrates the Lunar New Year with the snakes of the Hot 100. You can find a Snake...

Andy eulogizes David Lynch, reconnects with an old friend, and wonders why Godzilla and King Kong never teamed up. On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines looks at the songs that held the record for most weeks at #1 on the Billboard Hot 100. The table Rachel references can be found here .

Andy gets a new chair, hugs a stranger, runs into the guy who sold him some of his favorite records, is told he's too accessible, and dubs himself and his fellow podcasting friends the Jackal Family. On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines delivers Part 2 of songs by Sondheim on the Pop Charts. You can find a playlist for Rachel's Chart Chat here . Follow Rachel on Last.fm here .

Andy gives the business to podcasts who didn't provide their listeners with new material over the holiday break, then he talks about connecting with colleagues, being called a "geeky dog dad", and finishes his segment by doing a taste test of a chocolate frosted donut flavored Kit Kat for the first time. On Rachel's Chart Chat, the topic is Part 1 of songs by Sondheim on the Pop Charts. You can fo...

Subscribe to Empathy at the Apocalypse via Spotify here . Subscribe to Empathy at the Apocalypse via Apple Podcasts here . A new podcast collaboration to keep you company. Andy (People are the Enemy) and Josh (Screaming at Clouds) try to make sense of a broken world. New episodes released whenever they are made. First episode available in mid January. (theme song by the Gypsy Moths)

Andy's New Year's resolution is to roll four deep in 2025. Andy congratulates Bingo of halfwayokay on smashing his Cursemas Show marathon live Twitch streaming goal. Andy talks about the Bob Dylan biopic, A Complete Unknown, Jamie Foxx's Netflix "special", What Had Happened Was..., and then plays clips of Americans making fun of Robbie Williams, his Better Man biopic, and England in general. On Ra...

Andy talks about books, movies, music, cleaning the house, fixing broken things, and an upcoming podcast host team-up show you're not going to want to miss. On Rachel's Chart Chat,  Rachel from Des Moines looks at prog rock holiday song selections. You can find a playlist for the prog rock Christmas selections mentioned on this episode here . A user-created Youtube playlist of Jon Anderson's 3 Shi...

Andy plays a clip of a cop reprimanding an 81yo man outside a supermarket in the American south. On Rachel's Chart Chat, Rachel from Des Moines presents a further discussion of the four #1's off Forever Your Girl and other 1989 chart-toppers. You can find a playlist for Rachel's Chart Chat here . Follow Rachel on Last.fm  here .

Our guest is Bingo, the host of the hilarious show halfwayokay! Andy speaks with Bingo about halfwayokay's evolution, show segments, characters, and plans for a Christmas marathon show. You can find links to halfwayokay's live stream, audio archives, YouTube channel, social media profiles, and merch store  here .